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     Hiro_Protagonist (Ironside) AMRN Staff Username: Ironside Post Number: 1076 Registered: 12-2001 Rating: N/A |
Word on the street is that Shoji Kawamori and Studio Victor or producing a new Macross Series for the Macross 25th anniversary. Tenatively titled Macross F(rontier) Character designs and directing duties by some people I've heard of, with music by the queen of Kick-Your-Ass anime music, Yoko Kanno (Macross Plus, Vision of Escaflowne, Cowboy Bebop, Escaflowne: The Movie, Cowboy Bebop: Knockin' on Heaven's Door, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, Wolf's Rain, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd GIG, Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C. Solid State Society). Details are limited. The new series will take place on a Super Long Distance Colony Fleet some time in 207x. The female lead is Ranka Lee. A nation-wide talent hunt was held to cast the role, and based on the fact that the VA chosen is an actor/singer, we can expect Ranka to provide the songs in the Macross equation. According to Wikipedia, Newtype Magazine said this series will take place in a school. Also attributed to Newtype, variable fighters will fight space monsters. I haven't been able to find any more info, but my search did turn up an amusing debate as to whether the zentradi qualify as "space monsters". My first reaction would have been, "no", but after giving it some thought, I realize that they do, from a "monster movie" stand point. If you expand your perspective a bit Sharon Apple could also be considered a monster, so the idea that Macross is a series in which giant robots fight "space" monsters, and song is the ultimate solution to conflict makes sense. I may have to rethink the plot of Macross 12 :P | ||
| Heather (Illusion) AMRN Staff Username: Illusion Post Number: 3634 Registered: 2-2001 Rating: N/A |
I'd heard whispers about this, but you've got a lot of info. It'll be interesting to see. I'll miss HAL's character designs, just like I missed them in Zero, but I'll survive. I think Macross became a lot more than it actually was here on the MRN/AMRN. I know for a fact there were many other influences on the games. That's why it was so hard for me to decide to go with another universe, because the AMRN made me feel like I could do anything with Macross, while other anime felt limited by--gasp--canon. Heheh. | ||
| Space Opera Conductor (Vertigo) AMRN Staff Username: Vertigo Post Number: 862 Registered: 3-2001 Rating: N/A |
And yet we never had a space whales campaign... ;p | ||
| Heather (Illusion) AMRN Staff Username: Illusion Post Number: 3635 Registered: 2-2001 Rating: N/A |
That's actually kind of my point...we made Macross into what we wanted it to be, whether that was Aliens or something else, and we kind of ignored the parts of Macross that embarrassed us ;> | ||
| Space Opera Conductor (Vertigo) AMRN Staff Username: Vertigo Post Number: 863 Registered: 3-2001 Rating: N/A |
So there is still hope for some gratuitous fan-service? ;p *ponders for a moment* Wait a sec, I'm in charge of the board now! All kidding aside, I am interested in the new Macross series. Considering the events in Macross M3 are canon (and from what I understand Kawamori pulled a Lucas and said everything anyone created afterwards is canon in some way) there are plenty of explinations for "Space Monsters" and such. It makes sense that the Protoculture could have experimented in other ways, and the existence of both the Zolans and the Space Whales indicates there are other lifeforms out in the universe. My biggest interest is in what the new mecha designs are going to look like. They might be along the traditional Macross line, or he could try doing knock offs of his sky knight series like he did with the Varutian mecha in Mac 7. Anxious would be the right word for the situation. | ||
| Heather (Illusion) AMRN Staff Username: Illusion Post Number: 3636 Registered: 2-2001 Rating: N/A |
Ah, gratuitous fanservice. I think I was responsible for quite a bit of that, back when I played. | ||
| Hiro_Protagonist (Ironside) AMRN Staff Username: Ironside Post Number: 1077 Registered: 12-2001 Rating: N/A |
Gratuitous fanservice makes the world go 'round, and the baby Jesus cry. It's a two-fer! What caused the understanding that everything created after M3 is canon? | ||
| Space Opera Conductor (Vertigo) AMRN Staff Username: Vertigo Post Number: 865 Registered: 3-2001 Rating: N/A |
Dunno. Just the weird planet of the giant bugs puts the whole space monster thing in perspective. I just seem to remember reading somewhere that to make things easier they classified most of the storyline and called Mac II a "movie side-story" type deal. I probably misunderstood the article I read, but it was so long ago I forgot where I read it or who wrote it. Probably just that whole heard it from a fan who heard it from a fan that made it up, but anyways... Hmmm.... how well would a squadron of valkyries do against Godzilla? ;> | ||
| Heather (Illusion) AMRN Staff Username: Illusion Post Number: 3637 Registered: 2-2001 Rating: N/A |
That level of non-detail is not going to satisfy the detail-oriented, my friend. | ||
| Hiro_Protagonist (Ironside) AMRN Staff Username: Ironside Post Number: 1078 Registered: 12-2001 Rating: N/A |
Indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| mbs (Melkor) Player Username: Melkor Post Number: 547 Registered: 12-2002 Rating: N/A |
wow, that timeline brings to light just how little i've seen of the macross universe. macross f seems like it could be quite interesting, if for nothing else than watching giant transforming robots of death fight through the stars in mac0 graphics and the style of bsg sounds cool to me. :P i wonder if they'll keep the teen angst / musical aspect or make it more along the lines of mac0. i'd like to see something a bit darker, but i'm the guy that thinks jin roh, akira, ghost in the shell and the like are awesome. making the series darker would alienate most of the fan base, methinks. | ||
| Heather (Illusion) AMRN Staff Username: Illusion Post Number: 3638 Registered: 2-2001 Rating: N/A |
I hear the main character is an 18-year-old girl. Which is a relief given that I was afraid Mylene was an indicator of things to come and the next heroine would be 12. (Or 10...) Not that you can't have a good story with young characters, but have you seen Kawamori's latest work? ;P (Actually, I haven't seen it myself, but I've heard enough :P) | ||
| Infinite Incarnation (Shade) Player Username: Shade Post Number: 29 Registered: 1-2003 Rating: N/A |
Now Heather, you've really only heard one (hilarious) part about the gattai sequence. The show itself is quite entertaining, and the female lead is older than Mylene. Hmm, I can't get the offical site's trailer to link up correctly, so here's the Youtube mirror for the new Macross F trailer | ||
| Heather (Illusion) AMRN Staff Username: Illusion Post Number: 3641 Registered: 2-2001 Rating: N/A |
Hm. Watching that makes me want to watch Uchuu no Stellvia again, for some reason. | ||
| Infinite Incarnation (Shade) Player Username: Shade Post Number: 30 Registered: 1-2003 Rating: N/A |
New Macross F commercial Has the first glimpses of the Super VF-25. Oh, and the VF-17 variant seen in the trailer is listed as the VF-171. | ||
| Heather (Illusion) AMRN Staff Username: Illusion Post Number: 3646 Registered: 2-2001 Rating: N/A |
And the girl says "Listen to my song!!!" Which no matter what else you have got to love. | ||
| Hiro_Protagonist (Ironside) AMRN Staff Username: Ironside Post Number: 1080 Registered: 12-2001 Rating: N/A |
Macross F Episode 1 SPECIAL PREVIEW!!!! Warm up you bittorrent and go Animesuki NOW! | ||
| Hiro_Protagonist (Ironside) AMRN Staff Username: Ironside Post Number: 1081 Registered: 12-2001 Rating: N/A |
Macross Frontier episode 1 watched. This is funky cool Macross goodness. And for all you former Dire Wolves (if there are any of you left)... POWER ARMOR! | ||
| MAJ Roderick Swee (Gradius) PC Username: Gradius Post Number: 310 Registered: 2-2002 Rating: N/A |
Got the ep, gonna watch it in a bit! ^_^ | ||
| Heather (Illusion) AMRN Staff Username: Illusion Post Number: 3648 Registered: 2-2001 Rating: N/A |
Just watched it. I didn't care for the squish part, but it does seem to have a lot of "Macross" elements. I love Yoko Kanno's work, but it was sort of distracting in this episode, probably because I don't think of Macross Plus as being Macross--I like it, of course, but you can tell it wasn't written to be a Macross story. 7, which is obviously inferior in terms of artistic value, is far more "Macross" to me. I did like the still shot of our favorite original Macross characters, in all their DYRL glory. As for the characters...Sheryl is interesting, the little cat girl is annoying (as they usually are), and I liked the kids with the little booster packs--even the girly man. It helps that his voice isn't girly :> I tend to tune out during mecha battles, but it seemed like they were making a point to destroy traditional-looking Valkyries and let the ones with the Super Packs get all the glory...which I guess makes sense, but traditional Valks are prettier ;P It was nice to see one of the glory hogs dump his packs and go into the atmosphere, anyway. It's interesting that the higher-ups/military seemed to know the enemy was coming. Hope it doesn't turn into some boring conspiracy plot though... The translation was not great. Sometimes it was little stuff, like "Where are you?" instead of "There you are!", but other times it affected your understanding of the scene, like saying "Ranka's finally here", when really Ranka's brother was just saying that "they" were finally here, and he added his sister's name as if he were telling her, probably because, you know, he's worried for her safety. ;P (Or maybe excited about shooting them down and bragging to her later?) As a side note, it was cool to hear Richard Mardukas' voice coming out of the president. Also: Kyon! Though he doesn't sound like Kyon :> Question: Does Michel = Mikhail? He and Luca seem to have some connection to the military, and he and the others were the ones flying around the concert, but it certainly sounds like different names and not a mistranscription. Ozma and Leon both sound like they're saying "Michel". A codename? | ||
| Infinite Incarnation (Shade) Player Username: Shade Post Number: 31 Registered: 1-2003 Rating: N/A |
Concerning the space battle, it seemed like they were invoking Macross 7 and the hordes of VF-11Cs getting decimated, while the real men in their VF-17s got the job done. Only here, it's VF-171s getting slaughtered and VF-25s laying the smackdown. The VF-25 does have a really neat ejection system, though, much better than the VF-11's 'I'm gonna sit here and die' pod. Nice to see that the UNSpacy still can't make a capital ship worth a damn. It's interesting that a private military contractor has the cutting edge equipment. I suppose that they could afford to keep pilot training up and purchase new equipment, while the fleet itself has the normal Lvl 0 pilots who use 20 year old machines, albeit upgraded. Did anyone see the UNSpacy kite? Ozma's VA is Kamina, automatically making him the coolest character right now. He better say, "WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM?!?!" at some point. Nyan-nyan, nyan-nyan, nihao-nyan! I do hope another subber group picks up this show when it releases in April. Sheryl's holographic stage outfit and the show itself just said 'Sharon Apple' to me, and of course, the pilot cadets all doing Isamu's flying hand... Oh crap, they're Isamu clones! ;P | ||
| Hiro_Protagonist (Ironside) AMRN Staff Username: Ironside Post Number: 1082 Registered: 12-2001 Rating: N/A |
The kite is dead. Long live the New United Nations Spacy! The high courts in japan ruled that all Studio Nue and Big West owned were the character and mechanical designs. Which meant trademarkable signage, like the kite, is jointly controlled or some other legally arcane crap...Maybe Mr. J will be able to explain. The point is, the courts findings were not friendly enough to allow them to challenge Harmony Gold's "worldwide" rights in international or U.S. courts. However, remove the signage and what's left for HG to challenge? Re: "Isamu's hand" Watch that again and pay special attention to Luca's computer screen. There's gold there. I think there's little in the way of a serious conspiracy... At least not given what we in the real world know. I expect the Frontier citizens would be surprised. Macross Frontier and Macross Galaxy are approaching the galactic core, Where Megaroad 01 vanished. I could be reading in, as Macross 7 was in the core vicinity, but I seriously expect that the threat the President, Spacy and Special Military Service commanders seem to expect is the one that got Megaroad 01 Of course, that last bit is wild speculation. | ||
| MAJ Roderick Swee (Gradius) PC Username: Gradius Post Number: 312 Registered: 2-2002 Rating: N/A |
Cool! ^_^ I almost posted before realizing that I may be revealing spoilers. ^ ^ It's in black. =) Noticed a number of interesting things, mostly about the new VF-25. It's looks very similar to the VF-1 in fighter and Gerwalk. It transforms very similarly to the VF-19. With FAST packs it superficially resembles the VF-4. Though it seems (I'm still not entirely clear) that the arms in fighter mode run parallel to the legs/engines but on the outside instead of inside. The Ghost X-9 makes an appearance, as a recon fighter it seems. Then again, it could be general combat but the piloted fighters were sent in because the Ghosts were ineffective in combat with this enemy. (The enemy seems to have a perchance for close combat too.) There seems to be some poses/'scenes' from previous Macross series; the last scene reminds me very much of Hikaru when he was in his one-armed VF-1D emptying his clip into the first Zentradi we see. Oh yeah, Yellow trimmed squadron leader Valkyrie with a red trimmed subordinate Valkyrie. Red trimmed subordinate Valkyrie discards FAST pack and enters city section to battle infiltrating enemy. All in all, I can't wait for the next episode (and a better sub)! ^_^ | ||
| Heather (Illusion) AMRN Staff Username: Illusion Post Number: 3650 Registered: 2-2001 Rating: N/A |
Ironside: I do not want to discover that Our Heroes are dead! :P But that's about all they could do, since Hikaru's voice actor is no longer with us. I mean, maybe he could stand around in the background and not say anything, but...:P Or they could blasphemously replace him, I guess. Or, maybe the creatures attacking the fleet are Our Heroes, who have been mutated by exposure to the Galactic Core. o_o Shade: I found the contractor thing interesting too...I wonder if that's based on anything in real life? I didn't notice the lack of the flying kite...that sucks. Rod: HF and I noticed the homages too :) Pretty cool. | ||
| Infinite Incarnation (Shade) Player Username: Shade Post Number: 32 Registered: 1-2003 Rating: N/A |
Rod, the VF-25's arms rest in between the legs in fighter mode. Here are a bunch of official pictures of the VF-25. The left arm still carries the shield, and the shield is right where the -11 and -19 carry it, between the engines. Heather, mercenary companies used to be all the rage back in Europe, once upon a century. They had better training and equipment than the farmer levies most lords could raise at the time, but the rise of nation-states put the kibosh on them as nations could spend much much more on their armies. Now, private military contractors still exist; witness in Iraq right now, we have companies providing security for large areas. I believe Blackwater is the big one, though I could be mistaken. However, compared to our regular military, their training and discipline is poor. I'm honestly at a loss as to why the Frontier fleet is using a private contractor for their elite units, instead of just training up their own. | ||
| M. Alan Thomas II (Crazydreamer) Player Username: Crazydreamer Post Number: 183 Registered: 12-2004 Rating: N/A |
Shade's mostly right, as I understand it, except in that many private contractors generally hire ex-military personnel, so most of the contractor employees have regular military training. They also hire ex-law enforcement personnel with tactical experience. (Incidentally, this recruitment profile is identical to that of the CIA's paramilitary units.) However, I would agree with Shade that the private contractors have much worse discipline, leading to the current criticisms of them. | ||
| Heather (Illusion) AMRN Staff Username: Illusion Post Number: 3651 Registered: 2-2001 Rating: N/A |
I just watched AiA's sub, which is better in most ways. I'm not sure what "deculture" means, the way they're using it. But a scene that previously didn't make much sense now makes sense! When one of the pilots is talking to Ozma right after they've arrived at the battle, he says "Code Victor. Taicho no itteta rei no..." AiA translates this as "Code Victor. These are what the captain was talking about." It's more obvious with this new translation that the captain at least has encountered this enemy before. (The other translation had "rei no" as "Leon", which was really confusing...and speaking of Leon, the character who I thought was Leon doesn't appear to be Leon after all, so I'm not sure who Leon is!) | ||
| Barrister (Mr_justice) Player Username: Mr_justice Post Number: 1722 Registered: 3-2001 Rating: N/A |
Yay for Power Armor! | ||
| mbs (Melkor) Player Username: Melkor Post Number: 557 Registered: 12-2002 Rating: N/A |
I had a chance to watch the first ep. a couple of days ago. Maybe I'm too critical but it seems to be old school Macross meeting Macross 7 with some Macross Plus added for style. As far as we know that security firm could be a detachment escorting Sheryl. Considering she's such a celebrity that the president of the UNG is worried for her I'd imagine she has top dollar bodyguards. Farther support would be the young dudes dancing around in her show, they work for the aforementioned security firm too. My 2 cents, at any rate :) |
